This must not happen. We the people must prevail over the racists who are advocating this INSANITY. Politicians who side with the radicals who are pushing for this should be tarred and feathered.

I wish the President would seal the red state borders from blue state migration. New York liberals trying to enter Florida should not get past South Carolina. Arizona and Nevada are being overrun by blue state refugees in search of a better life. They wrecked their states, and now want to invade red state America. They must be stopped.

Anyway, I would consider it an honor and a privilege if you would add my blog "The Tygrrrr Express" www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com to your list of linked sites if you feel the quality is high. I found your blog through Michelle Malkin's website, since I like her writing.

Happy Summer.

eric

Aztlan..... we takin ova!!! PURO AZTLAN.....BROWNPRDE.....
CALIFORNIA,TEXAS,ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO...ETC.... IS OUR LAND...AND WE ARE TAKIN IT BACK!!!!!

And exactly what do they plan to do with it? Will they operate their new land with the same expertise as the rest of Latin America?

Yes, the Latinos will eventually get their nation of myth...after we're done with it.

Illegal squatters? You mean like how the pilgrims just conveniently 'found' America and ended up squatting like rats and stealing land from peaceful, friendly native Americans? Pay more attention to history before you spew retarded drivel. If there are vermin in America, it is white America itself. You are the parasites that refuse to be pried off the land until you suck it dry with your irresponsible war-mongering and ignorance. I really hope you wake up from your naive little fantasy. Read a book, jackass.

@Les: Those white vermin built America, assclown. The Mexicans are responsible for the slums in LA, the gangs, and the crime.

Simoooon los latinos tan arrazandooo
esas tierras eran de nosotros y pase lo ke pase las vamos a recuperar

You fuckin ass hoess, ask Native Ame. what they fuckin say bout you. If you leave then we LATIN will, cause neither u or us belong here. GO 2 SCHOOL N LEARN SOME HISTORY instead of bein writin bullshits.

California, Nuevo Mexico, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado...siempre fueron territorio hispano. Un dia llegarón los inmigrantes anglo-americanos y expulsaron a ´sus habitantes y prohibieron usar su lengua.
La estrategia anglo-americana es la de la de exterminar a la poblacion que no se asimila, como hicieron con los indigenas americanos.
¡¡¡Orgullo hispano y recuperemos nuestro pais¡¡¡¡¡

Racist Gringos sonofabitches go back to europe, this land belongs to natives Indians and Mexicans. We will take it back, and we will accept all nice people that want to be part of it, but not racist ones. This is America not Europe, got it ??? Mexican belongs to America not Europeans pendejos !!

Oh please.... you filthy rotten wetbacks. America is America. Mexicans are not natives to this land they were originally from Spain you pathetic naive chicanos. You treat your own native populations IN Mexico 10 times worse then we treat the natives here now. Aztlan will NEVER happen you pathetic racist idiots. Once you start killing whites and blacks left and right as LA Raza and other advocate you will get a backlash from all loyal Americans like you have not seen since the Spanish-American war and the War with Mexico. YOu want war wet-back, I will kill YOU!!

Aztlan will rise, as it will be a nation truly representative of its people: a mixed people, hispanic, native AND anglo. White people, if you don't want to be a part of it, move out of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah and Colorado. Mexicans, if YOU don't want to be a part of Aztlan, move out of the states of Baja, Sonora and Chihuaha. It's ours now. Viva Aztlan!

OK pendejos ... and I'm talking to the homies out there!!

I'm a Latina from L.A. and why the hell would I want "my gente" to be in charge of "Aztlan." Are you crazy???

If being "Mexican" was so great why so many of you out there in jail, jobless and just plain losers??? Forget it ... I rather stay Americana than what you pendejos want.

California better off American than Mexican.

And yeah I have babies from white guy. LOL!!!

=== AZTLAN ===

-CALIFAS--California
-ARIZA--Arizona
-NEVAZ--Nevada
-UTAZ--Utah
-NUEVO MEXICO--New Mexico
-COLORAZTLAN--Colorado
-TEJAS--Texas
-KANSA--Kansas
-OKLAS--Oklahoma

F*** you Racist Puto!!! Haha Be Afraid B**** im tired of u and all racist *****.

COMO DISE LA HISTORIA LOQUE UNAVEZ FUE TUYO CON EL TIEMPO SE RECUPERA ARRIVA LA RAZA

Top 10 Immigration Myths and Facts

Myth 1: Immigrants don’t pay taxes

Fact: All immigrants pay taxes, whether income, property, sales, or other. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local taxes. Even undocumented immigrants pay income taxes, as evidenced by the Social Security Administration’s “suspense file” (taxes that cannot be matched to workers’ names and social security numbers), which grew $20 billion between 1990 and 1998.

Source: National Academy of Sciences, Cato Institute, Urban Institute, Social Security Administration

Myth 2: Immigrants come here to take welfare.(1)

NOTE (1) Due to welfare reform, legal immigrants are severely restricted from accessing public benefits, and undocumented immigrants are even further precluded from anything other than emergency services. Anti-immigrant groups skew these figures by including programs used by U.S. citizen children of immigrants in their definition of immigrant welfare use, among other tactics.

Fact: Immigrants come to work and reunite with family members. Immigrant labor force participation is consistently higher than native-born, and immigrant workers make up a larger share of the U.S. labor force (12.4%) than they do the U.S. population (11.5%). Moreover, the ratio between immigrant use of public benefits and the amount of taxes they pay is consistently favorable to the U.S., unless the “study” was undertaken by an anti-immigrant group. In one estimate, immigrants earn about $240 billion a year, pay about $90 billion a year in taxes, and use about $5 billion in public benefits. In another cut of the data, immigrant tax payments total $20 to $30 billion more than the amount of government services they use.

Source: American Immigration Lawyers Association, Urban Institute

Myth 3: Immigrants send all their money back to their home countries.

Fact: In addition to the consumer spending of immigrant households, immigrants and their businesses contribute $162 billion in tax revenue to U.S. federal, state, and local governments. While it is true that immigrants remit billions of dollars a year to their home countries, this is one of the most targeted and effective forms of direct foreign investment.

Source: Cato Institute, Inter-American Development Bank

Myth 4: Immigrants take jobs and opportunity away from Americans.

Fact: The largest wave of immigration to the U.S. since the early 1900s coincided with our lowest national unemployment rate and fastest economic growth. Immigrant entrepreneurs create jobs for U.S. and foreign workers, and foreign-born students allow many U.S. graduate programs to keep their doors open.

While there has been no comprehensive study done of immigrant-owned businesses, we have countless examples: in Silicon Valley, companies begun by Chinese and Indian immigrants generated more than $19.5 billion in sales and nearly 73,000 jobs in 2000.

Source: Brookings Institution

Myth 5: Immigrants are a drain on the U.S. economy.

Fact: During the 1990s, half of all new workers were foreign-born, filling gaps left by native-born workers in both the high- and low-skill ends of the spectrum. Immigrants fill jobs in key sectors, start their own businesses, and contribute to a thriving economy. The net benefit of immigration to the U.S. is nearly $10 billion annually. As Alan Greenspan points out, 70% of immigrants arrive in prime working age. That means we haven’t spent a penny on their education, yet they are transplanted into our workforce and will contribute $500 billion toward our social security system over the next 20 years.

Source: National Academy of Sciences, Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University, Federal Reserve

Myth 6: Immigrants don’t want to learn English or become Americans

Fact: Within ten years of arrival, more than 75% of immigrants speak English well; moreover, demand for English classes at the adult level far exceeds supply. Greater than 33% of immigrants are naturalized citizens; given increased immigration in the 1990s, this figure will rise as more legal permanent residents become eligible for naturalization in the coming years. The number of immigrants naturalizing spiked sharply after two events: enactment of immigration and welfare reform laws in 1996, and the terrorist attacks in 2001.

Source: U.S. Census Bureau, U.S. Department of Homeland Security (Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services)

Myth 7: Today’s immigrants are different than those of 100 years ago.

Fact: The percentage of the U.S. population that is foreign-born now stands at 11.5%; in the early 20th century it was approximately 15%. Similar to accusations about today’s immigrants, those of 100 years ago initially often settled in mono-ethnic neighborhoods, spoke their native languages, and built up newspapers and businesses that catered to their fellow émigrés. They also experienced the same types of discrimination that today’s immigrants face, and integrated within American culture at a similar rate. If we view history objectively, we remember that every new wave of immigrants has been met with suspicion and doubt and yet, ultimately, every past wave of immigrants has been vindicated and saluted.

Source: U.S. Census Bureau

Myth 8: Most immigrants cross the border illegally.

Fact: Around 75% have legal permanent (immigrant) visas; of the 25% that are undocumented, 40% overstayed temporary (non-immigrant) visas.

Source: INS Statistical Yearbook

Myth 9: Weak U.S. border enforcement has lead to high undocumented immigration.

Fact: From 1986 to 1998, the Border Patrol’s budget increased sixfold and the number of agents stationed on our southwest border doubled to 8,500. The Border Patrol also toughened its enforcement strategy, heavily fortifying typical urban entry points and pushing migrants into dangerous desert areas, in hopes of deterring crossings. Instead, the undocumented immigrant population doubled in that timeframe, to 8 million—despite the legalization of nearly 3 million immigrants after the enactment of the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986.

Insufficient legal avenues for immigrants to enter the U.S., compared with the number of jobs available to them, have created this current conundrum.

Source: Cato Institute

Myth 10: The war on terrorism can be won through immigration restrictions.

Fact: No security expert since September 11th, 2001 has said that restrictive immigration measures would have prevented the terrorist attacks—instead, the key is good use of good intelligence. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were here on legal visas. Since 9/11, the myriad of measures targeting immigrants in the name of national security have netted no terrorism prosecutions. In fact, several of these measures could have the opposite effect and actually make us less safe, as targeted communities of immigrants are afraid to come forward with information.

Source: Newspaper articles, various security experts, and think tanks

http://www.peaceactionme.org/top-10-immigration-myths-and-facts

Nice long list of pro-illegal propaganda there Rio mixing the facts between legal and illegal immigrants as if they were one and the same. Now list all of the actual expenses that the US taxpayer incurs to cover illegal aliens and this includes the children they popped out here and sent to our schools on our dime.

It's a great deal... hop the border, pop out a baby, get medical care, welfare and food stamps in their name, send them to school etc etc and then try to pass it off as an expensive of a regular citizen.

It's total BS and you know it, yet you have an agenda so just avoid reason and actual intelligent discussion.

"It's total BS and you know it, yet you have an agenda so just avoid reason and actual intelligent discussion."

What, as opposed to the entire the premise of this post ?

Give us the intelligent, well reasoned argument for Mexicans running the Mormons out of Utah, let alone any state.
Go for it.

Aztlan: A myth created by the WHITE European ruling families of MEXICO to expand their territories into what is presently the US by brainwashing, indoctrinating and using people they regard as SERFS, RABBLE ie the brown non European Mexicans. Yeah, you may get your Aztlan, then the same corrupt Spanish families that have kept you in poverty for 500 years will still rule over you there as they do now in Mexico, which is the reason you foray into the US in the first place,necessitated by the POVERTY they perpetuate on you to control you. You would be better off the throw off the shackles of these oppressors first, then you might find out that Mexico can prosper for its people, not just a select group of its people. If you want to be angry, be angry against them, not Americans. And by the way, I am blackfoot and Cherokee, my ancestors have been here as long as yours.

SONS OF BITCHES!!!
ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKIN WHITE SQUATTERS ARE THE REAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. IGNORANT ASSHOLES. MY ANCESTORS HAVE BEEN IN THIS CONTINENT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE YOU ANGLO PIECES OF SHIT.
THIS IS OUR LAND AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK. WE DO WANT WAR, AND YOU WILL BE ON YOU KNEES LIKE THE FILTHY WHORES YOU ARE.
!!!VIVA LA RAZA!!! !!!VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!

MUERTE PARA LOS PUTOS GRINGOS.

"THIS IS OUR LAND AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK. WE DO WANT WAR."

Bring it. You won't take Utah.

I find it interesting that this "Asspan" movement is only being promoted by disillusioned, uneducated and unemployed Americans of Mexican descent, looking for a handout and a place to vent their frustration.

These idiots could not pull this off in Mexico, as their government would not tolerate it (and probably use lethal force to quench any protests), and neither should America. Same goes for any nut jobs out there (White Supremacists, Nation of Islam, Scientologists, etc.) who abuse the Constitution to spread their warped ideology.

America! F-yeah!

Let the Mexicans try to take any part of America. They will f*cking find out how fast martial law from the American Federal Government will crack down and put all their leaders in prison. If they actually try to start a civil war then the US Military will just have to shoot them. Remember the American Civil War? You think we will have the much trouble getting rid of the people who try to forcibly take any part of America? In turn we will bomb Mexico most likely. I would laugh if they turned Mexico City in a pile of rubble. Facts are facts idiots assh*le "La Raza shi*theads. This is America. Get used to the idea.

Mexicans are mixed europeans and native americans. They are mixed race and they deny native american culture/heritage/religion/language. They endorse a foreign european hispanic culture not native.

I've got something for all you lazy, stupid and entitlement minded spics ... Come and get it and then I'll wipe you off my boot!

Go ask the natives from canada and they will tell you stories that some you might not even heard do you know that some natives tribes from the west and mexico are related? do you know how the aztecs became Mexicas "MESHICAS" and by the way there is tribes in the tlahtohcayotl like the navajo people who their language is influenced by the nahuatl language. I am not going to waste my time here and explain why cause i know there ignorant people go out read and meet this people! From north to south america! This is Anahuac and it the time is coming we shall rise again!The clock is ticking and there is nothing you can do about but to reminisce on what you have done to the people of this continent! ANAWAK REMEBER THE NAME! And liberation is the game! Poberty is not in our blood is has only been for the past 500 hundred years! You ignorant mindless drowned who has no idea of what is coming and no it not 2012. Keep watching cnn and fox news keep letting the media feed your kids lies let them drown their innocent minds fallowing the so called American dream because there is no such thing! Keep living you so called freedom because the truth is you have no more freedom. keep saying get out of my land you illegal aliens when the truth is my family has been living here way before yours got here! Que permaneseca la tierra! Que se pongan the pie los montez! Que se reparta la flor de maiz! Y digan NO MORE! How can a human being be illegal in their own planet in their own land!

The only reason why these mexicans demand that the U.S. return the land they lost in the war back to them is because the U.S. took it and made something of it. If California, Nevada, and Texas werent such rich popular states and the U.S. was a third world country then they wouldnt want it back. Besides Mexican werent the first people in California, Texas, Nevada etc. only Native Americans have the right to be angry with anyone. Mexicans are just another product of people who came here and stole the land during the colonial era. Even if mexico still owned they land it lost im sure you mexicans would still be trying to cross into the rest of the territory claimed by the U.S. so go some where with all this Aztlan bullshit!!! I was born in California and I live in L.A. and its just pathetic what I see. you lost the land so get over it.

Firstly, I don't care who was here first and anyone who cries about who stole who's land is a hypocrite because the Aztecs were conquering/murdering other tribes of people for years and years and annexing their lands. It's why it was called the Aztec Empire and not the Aztec Commonwealth or some other dipshit name. The point is that ultimately, a nation is far, far more than the land it sits on or the resources it has available to it. Nations are built, they don't happen just because...

White society has to get over this guilt trip and realize there is nothing wrong with being racist. Everyone is a racist. Every other culture in the world rejects outsiders and their influence; it is simply a given for them. The white society, here and elsewhere is the only one that embraces outsiders and their gratitude is that they want to cut our throats for it. Have no doubt that these 'people' would kill every single one of us and make celebration of doing it. Think of what the word race means- a competition; in this case for survival: it's Darwinism- the Mexicans know this and they don't have any moral issues concerning that fact, only we do, and it's downright suicidal. It is coming down to the wire, folks. US or THEM. Those leaders who will not represent us must be removed from power so that those who are ready for this war can take their rightful place and lead us to repel this invasion and then take us on the offensive, eliminating every enemy between here and the panama canal. They say NA is "their continent". I say it belongs to those who take it, who control it. I say they can all die before I give that up- because the stark reality is, that if we don't fight back and they get what they want they will begin an ethnic cleansing that will make the holocaust look like a picnic. THEM OR US: wake the hell up, people.

Let me give you delusional illegals some advice - get out of the USA BEFORE those of us who are professional killers "go to work" on you! I can hit you every time at 1500 yards on a windy night and there are hundreds more trained and equipped just like me. We use the latest night vision 'scopes and sound suppressed ("silenced") weapons, you cannot see or hear us, but you'll surely feel the sting of our bullets. Your sissy "gangs" are weaker than little girls compared to us.

What is funny about this entire thing is that most of these webacks are the bastard offspring of WHITE SPANISH EUROPEANS and disgusting Indian whores. These mestizos speak a WHITE language and have a MONGRELIZED culture that in fact is primarily WHITE. This is the reason that still in Mexico the dominant cultural influence is from WHITE Indo-Europeans and not Indio mestizos.

But if you want to flip out with real anthropology... before there were any Indian/Mongoloids here in America, way before these bastard mixed race chicanos were around, there were Nordic WHITE Europeans roaming these lands. In fact, the OLDEST fossil found in America (Arizona to be exact) are blonde haired mummies. The same goes for the ancient people of Peru and Chile, who, before the Asian mongol ancestors of the Indians arrived, were already here. THIS IS AN ANTHROPOLOGICAL FACT. Now, does it really matter who was "here first"? NO

All that matters is who can KEEP the land. We whites have to KEEP IT by ALL MEANS NECESSARY. If we don't want it, then give it to these savages... they will again turn north when they run out of food and are back to their natural condition: POVERTY AND IGNORANCE.

In Florida, there are plenty of WHITE Cubans and other WHITE south americans that understand what these mixed race mongrels have done to the countries that their WHITE EUROPEAN SPANISH ancestors built: DESTROY.

I'm a Native American born in the USA. Do I like being ruled by Anglos? Not really, though they give us lots of compensation for having stolen our land, and since they aren't going away, I'll say that I'd rather live with them than with a bunch of retarded Mexicans who invent false histories because they want to come here and rule. You know why these Aztlan/MEChA morons come here and start bellyaching about Aztlan and how they are going to rule again? Because if they did it in Mexico, the real land of their ancestors, they'd be shot dead on sight by the European overlords like Calderon. So they come here because they know the USA is a soft touch. But I can see the gringos starting to get p.o.'d and fed up. 917445

Surtr, learn a thing or two before regurgitating nonsensical garbage from Scumfront. There were not a sufficient number of Spaniards to have relations with indigenous women to produce a race of literal "half-breeds" at the time of contact and for centuries after. Mexicans and Central Americans generally remain majority Indian and minority European, without significant biological differences from people acknowledged as "Indian" in the U.S. A mestizo is just an indoctrinated native. Cite peer-reviewed empirical research from a reputable anthropological journal that demonstrates that Europeans existed in the Western Hemisphere prior to Native Americans. I hope you know better than to mention Kennewick Man, but you've just been programmed with talking points from your masters at Scumfront.

What Carl said is the most insightful comment on the legitimacy of "Aztlan." Aside from the fact that many illegal and undocumented immigrants are from Central America (particularly Guatemala and El Salvador), and not Mexico, nearly all of them are predominantly Indian. The damage to the agricultural industry in the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca spurred migrations of the large Zapotec and Mixtec populations in the state, first from rural farms to urban areas, and then north to the United States when they realized that the greater demand for low-skilled manual labor and higher remuneration levels provided greater opportunities.

The Indian working and lower classes of Mexico and Central America boast a long history of conflict with the white upper classes of those countries. The most recent prominent illustration of this in Mexico came by way of the violent insurrection of the Tzotzil Mayans organized into the Zapatista Army of National Liberation (Spanish; Ejercito Zapatista de Liberacion Nacional, EZLN) in the southernmost and poorest Mexican state of Chiapas on January 1, 1994, the day that NAFTA went into effect. A similar rebellion erupted around 2006 in the heavily Indian state of Oaxaca. The more agitated Indian contingencies in the country of Mexico are dedicated to the violent overthrow of the country’s government, and those of Central America would have been subject to authoritarian mistreatment by Mexican governmental officials for illegally crossing the southern border. Indian rights activists themselves have been subject to discrimination, from Guatemalan Mayan Rigoberta Menchu briefly expelled from her hotel when her Indian appearance and apparel caused employees to assume that she was a local street vendor to Tohono O’odham Ofelia Rivas detained in Chiapas on charges that she had illegally crossed the border with Guatemala.

Why would those who have managed to arrive in the United States be interested in extending the political authority of that regime they have hated enough to leave over the territory that they have journeyed to?

Apart from the ignorance of racial stratification in Mexican society, there is no explanation as to why other Hispanics (namely Central American immigrants, mainly from Guatemala and El Salvador) would be interested in expanding Mexican territory, an assumption that becomes explicable only if they are regarded with the same sort of crude simplicity that groups East Asian peoples into their best-known example (usually the Chinese, the Japanese during World War II), foreign Muslims into one unit with an incoherent quasi-Arab identity, and so on and so forth.

The comparison between the secession of southwestern states into Mexico and the southern states into the Confederacy is interesting, because the popularity of Confederate iconography in the South is not depicted as emblematic of a treasonous and potentially insurrectionary population. Reconquista sentiment is a parallel form of wistful nationalistic nostalgia without any serious potential for concrete manifestation, but unlike the proud proponents of Johnny Reb, who are simply benignly honoring their heritage, the Mexican population (and others perceived as such) of the Southwest are hell-bent on reclamation of their national territory, according to the jingoists.

Rightist literature has spawned mounds of Civil War revisionism, characterized by insistence that the War was not about slavery, attacks on Abraham Lincoln as a dictator and mass murderer, and general depiction of the Lincoln administration as responsible for encroachment on states’ rights and destruction of regional sovereignty and liberty. Regardless of the truth or falsity of such claims, they illustrate sympathy for a government defined as a foreign power, opposed to the government of the United States. Yet the Rebel flag still flies in various Texan neighborhoods, and “Dixie” continues to be played throughout Alabama and Mississippi, with no protest from jingoists, because Confederate fetishism is compatible with white populism.

Honestly, the major difference between European immigration and modern Mexican and Central American immigration that I see is that Europeans are completely foreign to this continent, whereas most Mexican and Central American immigrants are indigenous to North America, their ancestors having lived here millennia before the first Europeans arrived.

Aztlan, yes I saw the stupid picture of california with a rifle over it and it says"this is are land". "are" spelled a r e , fuckin nice grammer you stupid ass wetbecks. Oh I'm so god damn sure you idiots are taking this land back. You have no idea what you people are up against. Even the degenerate white liberals will wake up when they see what you spics want. Wake up you dumb ass mekkies, history will repeat itself, and the crops will be watered by the blood of the wetbacks once again, and your pain will continue for centuries, because you can't take anything back, assholes!

mexicans are indigenous to mezo amarica...thats in southern mexico and you already own that...so calm down mexican and stop stealing culture

Average iq of mexicans 76...Average iq of whites 102...we have nothing to worry about.

this fucking white boys are afraid of us the mexicans they never say anything to your face they are afraid and we are ready for war

the white boys i know they are so stupid and make less money than me is that smart?

mexicans
indians
blacks
asians and many more are againts white racists

The conclution I got from this site is that is full of Nazis talking BS about immigrants... so now I know that the whole point of the diggersrealm website is for Nazis to express themselves.

P.S.
I don't know why America fought the Nazis in WWII if, I'm sorry to say but, they are Nazis themselves. I also thought Americans were better than that, but I guess I was wrong.

What's the deal with calling us "squatters claiming the land they stole as their own", if you check the history book they'll tell you that the united states was the one who did the stealing... in my eyes this is our birth right, and we don't recognize the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo.

never underestimate the white man,we have desimated you in the past and hold the power and will to do it one more time

...This is out and out comedy, it's like watching a cartoon reading the posts from the mass of completely uneducated degenerate retards on both sides. "F u this" "wetback that" "I'll kill you white boy" "F u Mexican" etc etc... WOW. I'm seriously ashamed to be part (biologically) of both cultures.

I guess it's good to get these sort of feelings out even if it's just talking shit...correction...even THOUGH it's just talking shit because it is in fact shit talk and nothing more. Especially the talk about Atzlan.

Ok guys...let's just say for this conversation you are right and it really is "your land" that the whiteboys ganked from you way back when....what is it exactly you guys think you are going to be able to do about it...honestly. What sort of gains do you hope to accomplish that is more then taking out a few innocents and causing civil unrest...albeit the scale of which may not have ever been seen in this country before...but what more than that??

You have no military force backing you, no assets with witch to even fund a war on the scale you are talking about, no Air Force or ground forces to speak of (the wanna-be bad ass little girl gang bangers don't count no matter how bad ass you clowns think you are). So I'll give you that you guys may be able to kill some pretty big numbers (innocent people with either no means or who are just passive enough to not really want to get involved...or in your terms...easy prey).

What do you think is going to happen to you when the full force of the U.S. Military comes down on you not to mention the shit load of local law enforcement that is in the area you guys mean to "Take back". And don't give me that bull shit about us not being able to win in Iraq and shit like that especially if you haven't been there to have factual knowledge of what is going on there and why. What do you guys think you are going to accomplish..realistically?

Seriously, You guys can't honestly believe you are going to "take" anything do you? If you do then that sentiment alone dictates you (La Raza, MECHa etc..) do not even have the mental capacity to even put together any sort of strategy that even almost resembles anything close to a feasible plan of attack or battle plan...c'mon guys even if your claims were true...it's not going to happen, the logistics of it alone are to great for a band of simple minded hate mongers like you guys to even fathom let alone to implement.

I'm not going to call you guys crazy hateful names like you are all throwing around, I'm not going to make any outrageous statements of bring it on or anything like that. I will leave you with this though...this is one of the many Operator that will make good on the oath I took 13 years ago and am still under obligation to do which is "to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies foreign and domestic".

So if you manage to accomplish anything more than a few riots before you are stamped out of existence just know that there are dangerous men who will be waiting, forget about anything else we will throw at you, I promise you that you are going to wish your mothers had never met your fathers when you are faced with what guys like me will bring to the game...and that is fact.

I know you guys think you have something to be pissed off about...but trust me, pray to whatever god it is you pray to at night that the nonsense you guys are claiming you're going to do does not actually come to fruition because it is not the way and not worth it and with out a doubt not end well for you.

Well put American Soldier!! Thank you for your service, and thanks for putting a real perspective on this. These idiots can talk trash all they want, and they can all kinds of illusions of grandeur, but try as they may, they will lose. They talk like they were around when these lands changed hands, and are somehow personally affected by this. This land was purchased by the US, and rightfully belongs to the US. Try to take from us, and learn about justice.

Every single word I have read about this whole stupid argument, every video clip I have seen by retards like that Ron Gochez guy or what ever the hell his name is, that sputters on about revolution this and revolution that, seriously makes me wonder about the level of retardation within the Hispanic community.

It's ridiculous for them to think they are going to take anything from the U.S. Government, It's not like they are going to take over an entire Military installation like Ft. Lewis or something and then use the assets there to mount any sort of military style combat actions to "retake" land from the"Gringo's".

Even if they did manage to get their hands on a few tanks and hummers and some guns and whatnot, not only would they not be able to obtain enough to make any sort of difference in their campaign but they do not have the training and knowledge to utilize that equipment...in any manner let alone effectively.....would they even know how to turn on said freaking tank or even how to drive aim and fire the damn thing???? and one other thing to consider is that at best... the only thing they might be able to get their hands on is some broke down antiquated nasty guard equipment....at best.

Like I said though, it's not going to happen, not only is any claim to this land that they make pure fantasy but they lack the means to make happen what they claim they are going to do...even if they are in the right....it's just not possible to accomplish. Yes they are a threat...but not to anything more than the well being of those who would be their targets of opportunity and to the good order of society. They are in no way a threat of taking any land from the U.S. period...neeeeever gonna happen.

I believe that there is going to be something that will happen in the near future but like I said in my post above...riots and civil unrest will be the extent of it with loss of life on both sides ending with them realizing there is no chance of victory, and their little movement accomplished nothing...them being those who survive to be tried, convicted, sentenced and locked up...if not for the rest of their lives then until they are executed.

Just thought of something else as I was looking at the map of this supposed "Aztlan". At the very least they should think about scaling back their real estate aspirations...the U.S. assets in the area they are talking about are of such that the Government would throw everything they had at any attackers.

For example...Colorado has The U.S. Air Force Academy, Peterson Air force Base, Fort Carson..... and NORAD. You guys can forget about even getting close to that place in one piece.

New Mexico. Not a lot their, White Sands Missile Range and things of that nature.

Texas. Fort Hood, Fort Bliss, Fort Sam Huston, Lackland, Randolph, Goodfellow, Dyess, Laughlin and Sheppard AF Bases. as well as Corpus Christi Naval Station....again...good luck guys.

Arizona. Luke and Davis-Manthon AF Bases and MCAS Marine Corps Air Station) Yuma, Fort Huachuca which is the U.S. Army Intelligence center...again...good luck.

California.... all I can say is WOW. Too many to list so I'll just put the number of bases by branch. Army: 3 posts
Navy & MC: 13 bases
Air Force: 5 Bases
Coast Guard: 20 Bases

For a grand Total of 212,800 Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen. 109,697 Active Duty and 98,292 Reserve and National Guard ALL of which are trained equipped and ready to defend our country...and that's just in ONE of then seven states you guys think you are going to take back from the U.S. This is all public information you can obtain from the internet and many other sources legally and for free. having said that I leave you with this:

One final thought for you "Revolution minded thinkers" to consider: Because of the nature of some of the assets contained in the area you guys are thinking you are going to "take back"....the Politics that go into the military actions we take in other countries will not be a factor when responding should you threaten assets like NORAD where unquestioned use of deadly force is authorized against our own military personnel should any actions they take there be considered a threat to the installation... what do you think the reaction will be to a bunch of illegal immigrants and traitors(those who are actually Hispanic citizens) that threaten installations such as this. No matter what...National Security will trump any political agenda period.... especially when that agenda threatens National Security assets

I'm just say'n.....

I lol'd at the discussion. "Our land!" most of this shit never happened while you were alive. Just like what happened to the Jewish folks, and black folks. Most of the people living today had nothing to do with any of that shit, and you know it. As for the pro-propaganda? I am sorry, but taxation does not work that way for those who enter the country illegally. Those who follow the correct way to enter the country to become a citizen go through the standard tax process as everyone else, but not the ones who come over by leaping a fence or on a boat. Your group cannot even take care of your fellow people - they run the country with drugs, use your people as mules, kill them if they do not pay enough to get across - such as what happened just recently with the 70+ dead found in a pit.

How economically established and stable is your country? It is easy to escape it, then try to claim you are taking something back for your people instead of dealing with the disaster of the current border area of your country. I am sorry, but you will not gain any of the states, nor will your want to push the issue get anywhere besides tighter immigration laws, deportation, more people with their lives lost for your agenda, and National Security babysitting you. How about trying to fix your country first by handling the drugs coming over that get into the hands of children, or cause the death of children directly or indirectly through dealer/gang fighting which involves quite a bit of your people before you start spouting you want these states and starting this mess.

What years were these states established? Do you know who were leading the United States during those years? Were you even alive during that time at all? No, you were not.

Oh and derp "red state blue state" asshattery. If you want to start spouting nonsense, I can too. You know that our problem with black gangs, minority rights, and all the bullshit going on with the black community is directly due to the red states wanting slaves, which were brought over from the African continent by your states? THANKS GUYS.

Puedo imaginar como sera los estados unidos si los mexicanos recibieron "su" pais nativo...Despues de un tiempo, la parte que reciban ellos sera una mierda como mexico es ahora. Ustedes quieren los EEUU porque tu pais ya es mierda!!

Um we stole their land because we thought we had to spread the word of god to them. also known as being a douche-bag or the politically correct term, manifest destiny. The west belonged to mexico and we invaded them with no actual reason other than to make our country shine from sea to shiny sea. They have a right to come here legally or illegally, The latino community is full of hard working people that want a future for their family. so stop being a racist, they will not take your job unless your job is working in a factory or maybe being a janitor. all industrial work is going to china. the job bullshit won't work with me. Viva Mexico! Yo cago en la leche de tu puta madre

For all those who are happy that the Reconquista is already here, I wonder how here in California, we're gonna maintain our stand-alone status as a world economic force. And as far as the Mexican curse words and phrases on this board. Keep it classy! Vaya que cursileria!

WOW..I can't believe the ignorance being displayed here. It appears to me that this website is run by nutjobs. Please research you information carefully. There is no such thing as AZTLAN and RECONQUISTA. To what extend do we allow stupidity to be spread throughout America. Idiots are running this country and jokes such as Sarah Palin and the Tea party must not be allowed to control the United States. How can you called yourselfs American. You are spreading lies that have no merit. Do you really think undocumented immigrants want to form Aztlan? They are here to work and not reconquer. Do something with your life, instead of sitting around spreading conspiracy theories. Serve you country in the Armed Forces or look for ways to decrease poverty and improve the economy!!!You are all sick bastards and get a life!

Aztlan? You neo marxist fools might want to rethink that one! You pathetic maricons couldn't even take a courthouse @ Tia Amaria in NM ! Which is my home state btw. The other Latinos would blow you to bits! And the flag that flies above MY LAND? Is the three percenter stars and stripes!Look at my flag wrong ? I assure you you will bleed out quickly! You pieces of shit couldn't take a Juarez whorehouse so why don't you go back to doing what you do best which is nothing, while you bitch about the "goobermint"! Obviously this isn't intended for all latino people, just you select cholo/ vato whining pricks that have nothing better to do! GET A JOB! There's a fuckin novel Idea for you!

Remember the last time Mexico attacked America? We kicked your asses and took over half your country. If Mexico attacks again, we might just take over te other half. And you can't say you were here first, most Mexicans are Mezito, part Indian, part Spanish. You are just a different kind of European.
The liberals in the Northeast might say to let illegals in- it's not their land. But having lived in both NM and CO, I can say that we won't give it up.

You bunch of loud mouth white boys who think you are still the dominant force in America, you just can´t see it, can you?
The latino´s are invading our country and the liberal bleeding hearts are welcoming them with open arms, opening the city gates to the enemy.
Soon they will be in the majority, and when that happens it´s game over. They will own this land, end of story.
They won´t need to invade with an army, because they will be the army. The police won´t arrest them when they kill whitey, because they will be the police.
They won´t enforce dumb liberal values like equality, human rights and liberty. They will rule the only way they know how, with force and fire power.
White man, you are dumb. White man, you are finished. White man, say goodbye to your land of the free and home of the brave. It was all a dream anyway. The American dream, and now it´s gonna be the American nightmare.
When are you gonna learn white man? Multiculturalism just doesn´t work in the real world. Period.

If the Mexican Army under Santa Anna, were defeated by the Texans in 1836... then I am pretty sure Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and Colorado can defeat some drug using Mexicans with the combined brain power of a mentally handicapped black toddler...

lol I laugh when I see the brown shit thinking their better then other people.The worst type of huamn being is the one who HAS TO consider himself better then another race to raise his self esteem.Aztlan is a made up thing,but some dumb ass beaners took it seriously.These ass holes should get deported and see why their parents worked their asses off to come to the US.Chicanos make me sick sometimes screaming brown pride,and calling themselves Mexican.YOU AREN'T MEXICAN IF YOUR BORN IN AMERICA DUMB ASSES.Your an America, who should love American not Mexico.That isn't your country,and you should be grateful it isn't because it sucks there.But if you fags actually went there you would realized that.And you racist white hicks being so blind as to ignore the fact these immigrants are making American better. They work in the hot field all day to earn a mere 60$,and you say they're stealing jobs?? If it wasn't for them,food would be more expensive,and would any of you racist trash work their jobs??? Shame on all of you.

This video oversimplifies the situation.
I know many self-proclaimed chicanos and native north americans. Some things that are established with certainty
1) Their is more tension between indigenous northern tribes and chicanos than between whites and chicanos. The general consensus is that the natives up dont much like the US gov. but the thought of having masses of know-nothing instant indians(chicano) telling them that they dont know their own culture tends to get under their skin. That being said their are some actual natives in the chicano movement but they are few...
2)"chicanos" talk alot of crap but never really do anything. They dont know how to shoot guns, dont own guns, and have no assets.
3)They tend to major is easy things like chicano studies or other such worthless majors that are really better off as a minor.(not too many chicano engineers)
MY analysis is that its a non-threat. How a mob of largely uneducated people will defeat a world class military capable of destroying all life on earth within 15 min is beyond me. Chill out white america but do take note of the destabilizing factor unchecked immigration could result in. Its really more of a problem for our own poor black and native communities than us.

you sperm colored-face crackers oughta pack your backs and go back to sucking the brits' dicks you pale face ku-klux-kowns. you fucks butchered 1000's of indians to make room 4 ur future iliterate ass-holes who polute the planet and anyone coming to America with anything they create. FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE!! VIVA LA RAZA DE BRONCE!! VIVA ALMIGHTY AZTLAN NATION

Everyone needs to grow up.. if Aztlan does come then it comes deal with it. All u racist people out there you really have to stop hating and accept people for who they are. Mexicans didn't bring crime to LA honey this world is already fucked up and y'all are worring about us Mexicans. If you are mexican or native and post a comment show respect these racist people let them say there shit we were taught to show respect let us show them that we are not immature children having to bash on one another. US MEXICANS AND NATIVES SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THAT. LA RAZA.

My tax dollars should not be spent on feeding lazy beaners.

If only Jesus would come back now. Its all God's place anyway so why are we thinking it ours or theirs. God forgive us all for hating one another. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul and love thy neighbor as yourself. God's two greatest commandments. Btter wake up before its too late.

I find it funny how these dumb Mexicans think they are actually "Indians" and viciously hate White people, when in reality, they speak a White Man's language and have 1/2 White blood in them. It is funny how they speak Spanish, which is a White Man's language and "Spainards" commited a genocide against Indians. So if "Mexicans" are "Native", then why are Mexicans speaking a language of a culture that raped Native Americans. They try to use the "Native" claim, which is false, because they are not pure indian, so they can complete their Reconquista plan to make the Southwest of the USA into a 3rd World Shithole filled with drug cartels, generally uneducated population and loads of crime as well. I already see it in where I live. Thank god not all people of Hispanic descent fall for the Neo-Nazi faschist Reconquista hate ideaologies though. Plus, I know how over 95 percent of Native American people laugh everytime they hear Reconquista bullcrap. Yes, Native Americans are laughing and think that you Mexican Supremacists are stupid and ignorant. So to all Mexicans, if you do not respect our laws, go back to Mexico. But I bet you do not want to live in Mexico, because Mexico is poor, underdeveloped and is ruled by drug cartels and oligarchs. Funny how Mexicans are yapping about the Reconquista when it was the White Mexicans who started the Reconquista idea. La Raza and Mecha = Epic Fail.

Yes it's real and of course they will deny it! It's just pretty well known here in the SW, yet in the rest of the country we're just being racist because they have no idea what is going on here. The movement started back around 1965 with the formation of MECHA which now is on almost every campus. Do some research on MECHA or Mechistos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxYznIECVEY

The land belongs to no one my friends. We are only here as the morning dew. A little while. Learn to love one another and live in peace. Ultimately it will be the land that destroys us. The Sun which is more powerful than any human will be our destroyer. Learn to love one another and live in peace. The word of the Lord.

These comments are retarded. Not only can any of you morons spell correctly you have your facts wrong. Native Americans peaceful? Maybe you should read a book, ever heard of the Apache or Sioux? Violent. BTW to all you Mexican's as well, you are NOT native. Mexican's came from Spain assjacks. Mayan's and Aztecan's are native. There is a difference, look it up morons. Listen the land originally belonged to the Native Indians, but guess what, wars have been waged throughout history of man, land has changed possession thousands of times. White man, no matter how much you hate us, won the war, therefore it belongs to the good ol' USA. Don't like it? To damn bad. Get over it. Life sucks, all people suck. Why does everything have to be a race thing? Live your damn life!

"Oh please.... you filthy rotten wetbacks. America is America. Mexicans are not natives to this land they were originally from Spain you pathetic naive chicanos. You treat your own native populations IN Mexico 10 times worse then we treat the natives here now. Aztlan will NEVER happen you pathetic racist idiots. Once you start killing whites and blacks left and right as LA Raza and other advocate you will get a backlash from all loyal Americans like you have not seen since the Spanish-American war and the War with Mexico. YOu want war wet-back, I will kill YOU!!Posted by: Chris on April 17, 2009 02:51 PM"

REALLY you stupid racist son of a bitch? The Spaniards who originally came to the Americas were WHITE! They raped and murdered the native Americans and basically made "Mexico". AND still run alot of it. Alot of the "Mexicans you see over here are either mixed with euro stink blood or pure natives that lost their culture because of the WHITE MAN (Spaniards). Look at the shithole the US is now WITHOUT the help of mexicans. Oh and for your information, the WHITE MAN is the real "WETBACK", he had to cross the ocean...pilgrims.

I believe that since it is recognized that by 2060 Hispanics will constitute 50% or more of the U.S. population, within the next 100 years the State of Aztlan will be formed, mostly from California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. It's only fair that this territory wrongfully seized from Mexico be restored - as written in Hispanic texts.. James

Really, this was written in 2007 and nonsense still gets posted to it?

While the European Union tries to heal old wounds and hatred among cultures on the old continent, it seems the USA moves backwards and its people become paranoid, spying, hate filled idiots. Instead of worrying over what percentages your population is made up of try to focus on staying "the land of the free, just, equal".

I can't believe that the ideas the United States was built upon already fail compared to EU just like the economy did. The USA is one of the youngest nations on Earth and already betrays its roots?