How much does Jake need to purchase a new AV computer? POST a dollar amount, i.e., TARGET to aim for and I believe you may see donations start to roll in.

Put a word out there if someone has one that they might like to donate to this cause for Jake to use. These two, Jake and MJ are crucial to this movement and have done an exemplary job exposing the dark side of illegal immigration!

Unfortunately, with the number of RHINOS and Dems in Washington, there's no stopping Amnesty this time.
It would have happened with McCain too.

My guess is that it comes early next year. The Dems will want the votes and will need time for Americans to forget by the time 2010 elections roll around.

Some of us just cant afford to fight this with money any further. We are just paper tigers. Our candidates lose elections. The Rinos and Democrats has taken over the congress and Amnesty is just around the corner.What elese can we do?.Unless we regroup as one group, we will remain Paper Tigers.

I can only think of one solution to get this issue into the MSM. One fellow tried that a few months ago in Tennessee. Shot some people in a Unitarian church and left a 4 page note behind, whereupon the MSM said they "didn't know why he did it...."

Sigh.

In 2006 some folks realized that rule of law was not going to be enforced without armed conflict. This wasn't an emotional reaction, but a thought in logical deduction. We had the momentum and many anti-illegal immigration groups watered that down, drown out the voices who were demanding instant and absolute enforcement of the laws. Now the powers that be know what the reaction is...People will go onto ALIPAC or some other anti-illegal immigration site and complain. When they get too angry, they will be quieted by their own and the sharp edge will be taken off the argument. While the other side poses extreme demands knowing that the "middle ground" compromise that falls short of these extreme demands is what they wanted in the first place.

Any future amnesty lies directly in the laps of rinos and anti-illegal alien group leaders who drown out their strongest voices, beginning in 2006, for their own political gains.

The far left controls the power centers in our society, taken unjustly and in criminal fashion. But of course "we" will still send each other patriotic quotes from the founding fathers about revolution and such. Just don't say it out loud the anti-illegal immigration group leaders can't have resolution threatening their power base.

Now many of these online anti-illegal immigration groups are nothing but a few house wives building post counts.

The only way to turn the country around is in a Jeffersonian fashion. Think about it, study the nature of this federal tyranny, it is the only way. If we aren't willing to revolt, then stop bitching and complaining about others leaving the "movement." It was killed the instant our voices were censored by our own people.

Pussy Boys................."Maximum range of and excuse"? Zero fucking Meters Boy. Fuck the Far Left. Start climbing up your Elected Officals ass............

What are we suppose to do. Alot of us cant afford anymore money. Some of those Fax sites charge $50 and over to send faes. How did McCain become a candidate or Obama for that matter.? Hell, I know NrAQ Members that voted for Obama and now are complaining that he appointed the biggest Anti Gun General Attorney. He is even worse that Gonzales.As for Amnesty, Get used to it. It is coming. because our Sheeple People want a change.

Perhaps, everyone is tired of working around people like you, Dan. You lie about and insult supporters. Supporters, that actually put in effort at the street level...not keyboard warriors or failed-forum admins. If people don't do it your way, people are not doing anything, right? It is amazing how bad your tunnel vision is. Oh yeah....good job trying to guilt people to give more money. If they don't have....they don't have.
Get over yourself...

You lie about and insult supporters. Supporters, that actually put in effort at the street level...not keyboard warriors or failed-forum admins. If people don't do it your way, people are not doing anything, right?

You're an obvious troll, but I will rebut your ridiculous statements.

Firstly, I have never insulted anyone, I have simply pointed out reality and that is that many in our movement are hamstrung by lack of funds when they could do more with some support. I've never lied and insulted those at the street level. Not sure where that is coming from.

Secondly, I have never run a forum. I have helped others, but the only forum I have ever been involved with on a minor scale is SaveShenandoah.com, so that is obviously where you as a troll are coming from. Still fuming over the people's success up in Shenandoah eh?

Third, I have never said people have to do things my way. Not sure where you are coming from on that one other than you are trying to paint perceptions of me to others with an outright lie - otherwise known as slander.

Fourth, I don't expect people who are just getting by to give money. It's not guilt, it's the reality of what is going on for those out there who have put forth time, effort and money like the Freedom Folks.

But whatever, that's what trolls are for. If I was really such a controlling freak wouldn't I just delete your comment?

Ok, Dan, ok if you say so. But I have seen and heard you insult street level activits in person. And you have lied.

I am no troll from that failure of a forum of save shenandoah. Involved on a minor scale? Ok, Dan. Good plan though to distance yourself. Really, it's wise to I would think.

Shenandoah? Yeah. Sucess. That was a curiosity turnout. How about your 8 man turnout in Hazelton earlier in the year? Yeah...HOOORAH! You couldn't get a rally together in Shenandoah to save your life now. They would run you out of town now that that know you and the others.

I'm glad about the success in Shenandoah, Dan. For real. I just think you are an opportunist and egotistical and that you have your own agenda that may or may not be shared by other so-called 'activists'.

You didn't delete the comment because you feel the need to prove to the handful of readers that you 'have it together'.

Enjoy.

Haha! Insulted street level activists? Your lies are ridiculous. You amnesty people will try anything.

Francis - Apparently you take delight in the apathy of Americans to fight this illegal alien invasion. I would question what YOUR agenda is. Save Shenandoah was created and handed over to the people of Shenandoah to use. One of the successes of that effort, which provided people a way to share their thoughts and opinions on being labeled a hateful, racist town - was that they got their mayor to resign. Their mayor was not supporting the people of Shenandoah so I'd say that was a huge victory for them. The creators of Save Shenandoah are not actively involved - they stay at a distance. It is up to the people who want to change Shenandoah to make something of that site and their town.

As far as turnout for rallies etc - your insults matter not to any of us who take our own time and money to try to rouse people to take action. The most recent rally in Shenandoah was not advertised heavily, it was too late in the year to have an outdoor rally and there were no big name draws to get people to come out. These things happened because the people trying to organize these rallies have no experience, have no money at their disposal and they are simply grass roots patriotic Americans who CARE. If that is a negative than I stand proud to be accused of that.

In 1775, there were only a handful of Americans who cared to evict the British royalty from the new country and I am sure there were plenty of naysayers and jerks like you even during those times. Fortunately, people like you don't amount to much and don't have much success at stalling the efforts of those who care to change things for the better.

I thank people like you because you simply galvanize myself and others to do MORE and give more to the worthy cause of taking back our country from the traitors who run it now.

Ruth and Dan:

You are both laughable hippocrits. I have met you both. I have been at EVERY VotP event in support. EVERY ONE. I put out enormous effort to support those people. I have heard the insults PERSONALLY....from less than 2 yards away.

You both seem to speak WAY too much without having ANY factual basis for for statements. No, I am not Amnesty. No, I am not some Troll that is bored. I am the Patriot.

You really sound dumb making those statements. I am giggling right now typing, because you plainly do not see your own ridiculouslessness.

The turnouts do matter when the community does not care to take notice of what you are doing and just gawk at the weirdos in an autoparts store parking lot baking in the sun and listening to the landowner talk about the pros of sea salt....you have rallied no one with that crap....get it?

Then you go on to slam and disparage people that have attended (people that actually do something) only to have Dan S. contact them personally to apologize.

Mixed messages destroy your credibility. To everyone not just to the people you criticize.

So carry on with calling people names and making outlandish accusations. You are biased...you are false...you are far more dangerous to this country than the invaders themselves.