Is this a recent change in position or have we misjudged all along?

Illegals doing jobs I don't want to do is outrageous. How dare they want to do those jobs, and how dare one of the great conservative messiahs support the amnesty for these people that couldn't afford, or can't wait 12+ years for legal immigration. They are stealing our jobs by harvesting crops that American farmer's can't afford to pay minimum wage for. How dare they keep the cost of produce down for doing the job for less than any reasonably minded American would do it for. I for one want to chuck watermelons for 12 hours a day for $10.00 U.S. and dammit it is infringing on my right to do so. Lou Dobbs is Satan himself for wanting to see these hard working people find a way to citizenship without having to wait over a decade to achieve it, and even then if they are lucky.

Illegals doing jobs I don't want to do is outrageous.

They are stealing our jobs by harvesting crops that American farmer's can't afford to pay minimum wage for.

Your theory is flawed. Farmers are paying so little because they can get away with illegally paying less. Oversupply of labor has driven prices down for decades.

How dare they keep the cost of produce down

I'll pay a little more for lettuce if my taxes go down because I don't have to pay for illegal aliens health care, education, social services and infrastructure because of massive influxes of population. I also won't have to watch as day after day Americans are killed at the hands of illegal alien criminals.

Your "lower cost" argument is a pure straw man that doesn't look at the full picture.

bending over to "save a quarter" while they're taking 5 bucks out of your back pocket to pay for the cost of providing those "savings" is pure idiocy.

Is this a recent change in position or have we misjudged all along?

On the radio recently (link below) Dobbs tried to claim that all along he's been for a pathway to citizenship and that apparently people were too stupid to catch on.

Gheen Challenges Dobbs on Radio

Produce is not a money making proposition for farmer's to begin with. What's more is I only gave a few, and somewhat outrageous examples of jobs the illegals "take." I grew up on a ranch, and yes, we on occasionaly had an illegal working our fields. It wasn't some job that we would have ever hired someone for except that he was willing to work for peanuts, and we didn't want to do the work ourselves. That is the type of work that most illegals are doing. Odd-jobs that their "employer" was going to do themselves eventually, but instead hired an illegal to take care of it because they were there.
What is more if you think you are paying for illegals' health care in tax you are wrong. If anything you pay for it in your health insurance and general health care services. There is no government sponsored illegals' health care.

I understand his(Dobbs) wife is Mexican? If so, that explains everything.

Of course you are with Gheen on this one...who would expect anything different?

Anyway, Dobbs is just another conservtive shill. Why anyone would be concerned about what he says is beyond the smarter folk on the planet.

So to carry that further, why should anyone care whay ALIPAC or Gheen has to say about anyone. Their bias and prejudice is so evident any person that cares to look beyond the rah-rah can see it.

Perhaps if the group and man took a 'higher-ground' approach to its criticism, but alas he is no better then the rest of the attention whores in the political spotlight. He sources his criticism of raw emotion, personal popularity, and the sewers.

This shows even in his supporters and local-level lackeys.

I understand his(Dobbs) wife is Mexican? If so, that explains everything.

That's pure crap. Most legal immigrants and naturalized citizens are angry about illegal immigration. One reason being that they have their own families waiting in line to come here legally while these trespassers just traipse across the border like they own the place.

Another reason is that our current legal immigration laws are flawed in that they are allowing low skilled workers into this country through "family reunification" and other bogus issues that do not take into account the needs of this country first. These low skilled legal workers are in direct competition for jobs with illegal aliens.

why should anyone care whay ALIPAC or Gheen has to say about anyone. Their bias and prejudice is so evident any person that cares to look beyond the rah-rah can see it.

What is amazing to me is that you dismiss groups concerned about an issue because they have bias, but time and time again you defend groups based on RACE that also have a clear agenda. An agenda that is racist in nature and not in the best interests of all Americans receiving equal treatment and opportunity under the law.

Where is your outrage at affirmative action and housing for only "Latinos"? A direct violation of the principles of this country.

I don't agree with Dobbs's statements on amnesty and other issues, but he has plenty of other issues that he brings up that are common sense.

It's just amazing to me how defensive you are of illegals and the bias of race based groups, but any American pointing out the travesty of illegal immigration is somehow a bastion of bias that should be ignored.

But that's par for the course from your side. Why not just call us all racists again? I mean only doing it 1000 times when you have no logical argument to the issue clearly is not enough.